Code Geass

[Дон Пахан]

Вот такой вопрос у меня. просмотрела пока 19 серий и у меня не работает 15, потому хочу спросить как С.С. потеряла память?

Если коротко: совершив эмоциональный поступок, идущий наперерез её основному на тот момент желанию (как она считала), она спряталась от окружающего мира в самой себе, чтобы как следует подумать.

[Love'good]

Простите пожалуйста, если это оффтоп... Но не подскажет ли мне кто-нибудь где можно скачать нормальные русские субтитры к Коду Гиасс?

[Chemist]

http://www.fansubs.ru/base.php?id=1880 -- Р2 брать Размеса или Моугрима. К первому сезону только Дримеры есть, но к ним перекочевали бредовые ошибки от ГГ первой редакции. В целом, Размеса и Дримеров рекомендуется прогнать через редактор, для замены Рыцарских коней(дример) и имён персонажей, наз. стран(Размес) на нормальные.

http://www.fansubs.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?...80626ad4e3b63ce -- саунды и пикчеры. Хардсаб.

[Love'good]

К первому сезону только Дримеры есть, но к ним перекочевали бредовые ошибки от ГГ первой редакции.

Что? А других к первому сезону точно больше нигде нет? просто у этих субтитров тайминг плохой - сначала субтитры появляются раньше чем надо, а потом - с запозданием... А так смотреть не очень удобно...)

Изменено 12 октября, 2008 пользователем Love'good (смотреть историю редактирования)

[Chemist]

Что? А других к первому сезону точно больше нигде нет? просто у этих субтитров тайминг плохой - сначала субтитры появляются раньше чем надо, а потом - с запозданием... А так смотреть не очень удобно...)

Других на русском нет. Вернее, я не знаю о таких. И Дримеры сделаны под ТВ-релиз.

aegisub в зубы или аналогичную программу -- и вперёд, подгонять тайминг под ДВД-релиз(скорее всего у тебя рипы с него).

Какие-то плееры, кажется, могут и сами непосредственно тайминг изменять.

[Randir]

Love'good, вот ссылка на сабы дримеров с правленным таймингом под двд рип от BakaWolf. Попробуйте, может вам подойдет.

[Remor]

Что? А других к первому сезону точно больше нигде нет? просто у этих субтитров тайминг плохой - сначала субтитры появляются раньше чем надо, а потом - с запозданием... А так смотреть не очень удобно...)

оффтоп

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Субтитры отдельно от серии скачиваете?

Если так, то лучше скачивать с русскоязычных треккеров. Там с таймингом проблем быть не должно. Либо раздачу смените. Про проблемы с таймингом, по идее, должно быть указано или в самой раздаче или в комментах к ней. Так же там могут быть выложены исправленные субтитры.

У меня лично, таких проблем с первым сезоном не было.

[Love'good]

aegisub в зубы или аналогичную программу -- и вперёд, подгонять тайминг под ДВД-релиз(скорее всего у тебя рипы с него).

Спасибо большое за название программки))) Сабы отредактировала - теперь хоть более-менее нормально смотреть можно ^__^

Изменено 12 октября, 2008 пользователем Love'good (смотреть историю редактирования)

[Chemist]

Внезапно...

В 12\2 у Лелуша назначены свидания со 108-ю девушками... Не надо напоминать кол-во наложниц Чарльза? Ещё одна мелкая деталь, добавляющая атмосферы...

[Маримо-кун]

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Celiss Galvea

Before I go off to wallow in self-misery because I made another silly mistake in today's Politics / Economics paper, I just want to point out that the official Geass-net mobile site explains in Nunnally's profile that her blindness gives her the ability to see through the hearts of people just by touching their hands, and in the final episode she found out everything with said ability. Officially, that flashback scene had nothing to do with Lelouch and Codes.

C.C.'s profile has also been updated, and the final part of it now says: "Knowing that Lelouch does not hate her for giving him the Geass, she is now able to show her true feelings. With the realization of "Zero Requiem", her time with Lelouch, who was able to forgive and accept her, came to an end, but the memories created with him has, without doubt, saved her from eternal loneliness."

Having read this, C.C. appears to have been talking about herself when she said this line in the end: "The power of the king will isolate you... I guess it turned out a little different after all... right, Lelouch?". The power of the king eventually leads to immortality (Code); C.C. had the power of the king and for a long time led a lonely existence, but she is now no longer lonely, thanks to her time with Lelouch.

Unless they update Lelouch's profile with some kind of "but maybe he didn't actually die" line, it seems to me that officially, Lelouch is 100% dead. None of the magazines seem to think the ending is at all ambiguous, and none of the staff and cast members seem to think so either. Okouchi, especially, appears to be pretty final about Lelouch's death in his interview ("His life had not been in vain. That was why he smiled in the end", along with his explanation as to why the punishment was necessary from the beginning). As for Taniguchi, he said only 2 things: (in the NewType interview itself) It's up to the viewers whether they want to think of the ending as a Happy End or a Bad End, but he thinks of it as a Happy End. As for what the epilogue meant, the viewers ought to work it out for themselves. The meaning behind C.C.'s final line appears to be part of what he wanted viewers to think about, though Geass-net's already given us the answer to that. Lelouch's fate, is, IMO, not part of what he wanted viewers to think about, because as far as the staff members are concerned Lelouch's fate wasn't at all ambiguous.

By the way, Shimomura Takaharu, one of the staff members involved with advertising, wrote in his "Parting message to Lelouch" (from Animedia):

"Let's all go to the World of C" (For more details, refer to the R2 drama CDs)

Looks like SE6 will feature a track about everyone going to the World of C.

Tomikawa Kiyoharu (Production Desk) has this to say to Lelouch:

"Rest in peace. I'm begging you, please don't come back ever again. (The animating process was just too much trouble!)"

Most of the staff members' parting messages for Lelouch are pretty hilarious, and are in keeping with the Geass sense of humour.

As for the cast comments, Takada Yuuji (Toudou's VA) is also of the opinion that Lelouch chose to die from the very beginning.

"From the very start, you had been planning to die for the sake of the world. I see. That's really something. You're one heck of a guy!"

:D

[Chemist]

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Celiss Galvea

 

Before I go off to wallow in self-misery because I made another silly mistake in today's Politics / Economics paper, I just want to point out that the official Geass-net mobile site explains in Nunnally's profile that her blindness gives her the ability to see through the hearts of people just by touching their hands, and in the final episode she found out everything with said ability. Officially, that flashback scene had nothing to do with Lelouch and Codes.

 

C.C.'s profile has also been updated, and the final part of it now says: "Knowing that Lelouch does not hate her for giving him the Geass, she is now able to show her true feelings. With the realization of "Zero Requiem", her time with Lelouch, who was able to forgive and accept her, came to an end, but the memories created with him has, without doubt, saved her from eternal loneliness."

 

Having read this, C.C. appears to have been talking about herself when she said this line in the end: "The power of the king will isolate you... I guess it turned out a little different after all... right, Lelouch?". The power of the king eventually leads to immortality (Code); C.C. had the power of the king and for a long time led a lonely existence, but she is now no longer lonely, thanks to her time with Lelouch.

 

Unless they update Lelouch's profile with some kind of "but maybe he didn't actually die" line, it seems to me that officially, Lelouch is 100% dead. None of the magazines seem to think the ending is at all ambiguous, and none of the staff and cast members seem to think so either. Okouchi, especially, appears to be pretty final about Lelouch's death in his interview ("His life had not been in vain. That was why he smiled in the end", along with his explanation as to why the punishment was necessary from the beginning). As for Taniguchi, he said only 2 things: (in the NewType interview itself) It's up to the viewers whether they want to think of the ending as a Happy End or a Bad End, but he thinks of it as a Happy End. As for what the epilogue meant, the viewers ought to work it out for themselves. The meaning behind C.C.'s final line appears to be part of what he wanted viewers to think about, though Geass-net's already given us the answer to that. Lelouch's fate, is, IMO, not part of what he wanted viewers to think about, because as far as the staff members are concerned Lelouch's fate wasn't at all ambiguous.

 

By the way, Shimomura Takaharu, one of the staff members involved with advertising, wrote in his "Parting message to Lelouch" (from Animedia):

 

"Let's all go to the World of C" (For more details, refer to the R2 drama CDs)

 

Looks like SE6 will feature a track about everyone going to the World of C.

 

Tomikawa Kiyoharu (Production Desk) has this to say to Lelouch:

 

"Rest in peace. I'm begging you, please don't come back ever again. (The animating process was just too much trouble!)"

 

Most of the staff members' parting messages for Lelouch are pretty hilarious, and are in keeping with the Geass sense of humour.

 

As for the cast comments, Takada Yuuji (Toudou's VA) is also of the opinion that Lelouch chose to die from the very beginning.

 

"From the very start, you had been planning to die for the sake of the world. I see. That's really something. You're one heck of a guy!"

:)

1. Сие имхо стороннего человека.

2. Саунд эпизод 6... ещё боооольшой вопрос, что там будет.

3. Профиль Наннали, машинный перевод:

[nanari] [vui] Britannia (CV: Kaori Nazuka) Younger sister of [rurushiyu]. At the time of [buratsukuriberion] you were kidnapped in V.V. and it was the expectation which had become the whereabouts unclear, but is appointed in new governor-general as the royalty which has the Imperial Throne succession right of 87 rank, returns to area 11. After that, it keeps aiming toward progressive rule e.g., administrative Special Economic District Japanese revival is proposed. It was thought that it was involved in the explosion of the deflection ear bullet in the case of second next [toukiyou] decisive battle and died it displayed the form before [rurushiyu] as an enemy, but it was rescued by [shiyunaizeru], as a [shiyunaizeru] group emperor candidacy.

 

Ни слова про слепоту.

 

"that her blindness gives her the ability to see through the hearts of people just by touching their hands"

1. Иносказательно, обострение всех анализаторов на фоне слепоты. Медицинский факт, возведённый в абсолют.

2. Если это правда -- то пахнет мистикой. Птичек нет, других сил в Гиассе не заявлено -- следовательно, не имеет силы.

 

Участники проэкта могут думать всё что угодно, суть только за сценаристами.

Окочи и Танигучи. Первый -- "он должен был умереть как наказание". Он и умер. Второй -- "думайте сами".

В итоге -- по прежнему никаких 100% гарантий того или другого.

 

И да. Кто-нибудь себе представляет "Код Гиасс 2" без Лелуша? Ежу понятно, что ОВА или ещё что будет, слишком прибыльно. Если только не приквел про Чарльза и Марианну.

Изменено 14 октября, 2008 пользователем Chemist (смотреть историю редактирования)

[Chemist]

Кстати... Гиасс.

1. 1 птичка. Контроль

2. 1 птичка. Нет контроля.

3. 2 птички. Контроль.

Это эволюция Королей.

 

СС и Мао страдают 2мя птичками без контроля. Это получается уже следующая стадия или просто срыв Гиасса?.. опять инфы не достаточно...

[Маримо-кун]

Мда... хрен поймешь

Танигучи сказал выбирайте сами или хэппи энд или нет

он сам выбрал хэппи энд

Окочи - умер и все тут :)

 

 

Кстати... Гиасс.

1. 1 птичка. Контроль

2. 1 птичка. Нет контроля.

3. 2 птички. Контроль.

Это эволюция Королей.

 

СС и Мао страдают 2мя птичками без контроля. Это получается уже следующая стадия или просто срыв Гиасса?.. опять инфы не достаточно...

 

да и с гиассом Лелуша, как то не ясно, то ли для пафоса рукой проводил, то ли линзы снимал одним движением руки.... :lol:

[Chemist]

да и с гиассом Лелуша, как то не ясно, то ли для пафоса рукой проводил, то ли линзы снимал одним движением руки.... :)

С Лелушем то всё понятно -- никаких линз. Птички появляются и гаснут одновременно -- см. смерть Дитхарда.

Плюс ещё "золотой" Гиасс из опенинга. Вот и думай, для красоты покрасили или рояль заложили.

[Маримо-кун]

http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/0810/2b/bf28f44eb7c5t.jpg

1.) Asks about the congratulation messages written hanging on Tamaki's wall in his bar. Somebody might have already known about this, but Tamaki's VA, Tanaka Kazunari, wrote his own congratulation message to his character, Tamaki, saying, "To the Handsome Tamaki". LOL

 

2.) About Xingke's noticeable absence in the wedding pic of Ougi and Villetta, still in Tamaki's bar. They offer no explanation, just this, "Why wasn't he at the wedding, despite his precious Tianzi being there? Could it because he had a violent coughing fit?"

 

3.) The the image of Suzaku and Arthur in Kallen's room - Original Picture by Sakurai Takahiro O_o

 

4.) Talks about the message on Suzaku's gravestone, which was "Here lies a consummate and invaluable knight to his highness". Suzaku has supposedly fallen in battle by the defeat of the Lancelot. He was the accomplice of the Atrocious Emperor Lelouch, but someone had his grave made.

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Sakurai x Taniguchi x Fu-kuyama Interview, NewType November 2008

 

--Congratulations on the completion of "Code Geass". When did the thought "It's ended" first occur to you, Director Taniguchi?

 

Taniguchi: That's a difficult question. Visually, that would be after the V-edit (Video Editing) ended, because after that you can no longer do anything about it. However, in terms of the end [of Code Geass] as a project, I really don't know.

 

--How did the final recording session go?

 

Taniguchi: It was difficult for me to control myself, psychologically. Since it was the final recording session, I kept thinking "This is the end", but in terms of the actual work, I had to hold on for a little while longer.

Fu-kuyama: I was thinking "Let's record our lines in high spirits!", but that only lasted until episode 24. The final recording session was...... This might be the first out of all my works so far in which I completed the final episode without putting too much effort into it. I took it all calmly.

Sakurai: I was in a spiritual state of nothingness. More than two years have passed between the recording of the first episode and the final episode. To be involved in a project for so long is something of a rarity these days, and because of that I was also overwhelmed with feelings. Still, "Code Geass", true to its nature, ended in a cool way.

Fu-kuyama: I think the VA with the most mixed feelings when it comes to the last episode of Code Geass might very well be Hoshi Souichirou, Gino's VA. To tell you the truth, I received a phone call on the night before the recording for the final episode. I wondered who it was... and it turned out to be Hoshi-san.

Sakurai: He called me, too.

Fu-kuyama: When I answered the call, all he said was "Tomorrow's the final episode, isn't it... do your best*." (laugh) [*ganbattene]

Sakurai: He said "Do your best" to me, too. I guess he was especially attached to this show.

Taniguchi: (laugh) It's up to everyone how they want to interpret the ending, I don't mind, but for me, it was a Happy Ending.

Fu-kuyama: I, too, think it was a happier ending than expected.

Sakurai: As for me... I'm looking at things from the viewpoint of Suzaku's VA, of course, but I've been watching the show as just another audience, too. That might be why the ending was painful for me.

 

--Was the final episode something you thought of from the very beginning?

 

Taniguchi: Yes. The ending was decided upon beforehand. Although it was eventually cut, I actually had [Okouchi] write a script for episode 1, one which began with the scene of Suzaku attempting to kill Lelouch. I'm talking about episode 1 of the previous series, not R2.

 

--The relationship between Lelouch and Suzaku described in these 50 episodes has seen a lot of ups and downs. They've shot at each other with guns, tried to kill each other, stepped on the other's face after he humbled himself by getting on his knees......

Taniguchi: From my point of view, Lelouch and Suzaku's relationship in the previous series did not go beyond that of reunited childhood friends. It wasn't "friendship" -- they were playing at a "make-believe friendship". With R2, my intention was to show how it turned into "friendship" in the truest sense of the word. ......As for the part with the kneeling, if Lelouch hadn't done that, he might have been killed by Suzaku, and Suzaku, had he not stepped on Lelouch's face, would probably not have been able to control his rage.

 

--Basically, it was necessary to go that far* for Lelouch and Suzaku to be able to rebuild their bonds. [*kneeling + stepping on face]

 

Taniguchi: It's a matter of definition, but for me, the relationship between "good friends", to put it bluntly, is one in which "they are able to change each other's soiled underwear even when they've become doddering geezers".*

Fu-kuyama: Though in my opinion, that's already crossed the line into "love" territory (laugh).

 

[*This line sparked an outbreak of "Eeewwww, Taniguchi", "Taniguchi's definition of friendship sets the bar too high" and "...Does Taniguchi actually have such friends?" on 2ch]

 

--Once again: what kind of show was "Code Geass" to all of you?

 

Sakurai: "Code Geass" was a stimulating piece of work, in my opinion. It suddenly appeared and swiftly took society by storm before facing its end in style. I look forward to everyone's reactions after the final episode. I'm sure all of us would like to see more of this type of original anime.

Taniguchi: I would be delighted if the viewers accepted [this show] with that thought in mind. When we first started "Code Geass", there was this sense of danger that if we don't do our best now original anime will die out completely. The way things are, there will eventually only be anime adapted from manga, games and light novels. For the sake of creating an entertaining original anime, we concentrated what skills we had and tried tacking them on little by little during the creation process. Of course, in "R2" we had to continue being aggressive. I continued working on this show feeling like a challenger. It was an enlightening experience!

Sakurai: These days, there are a lot of anime with tactical gimmicks, but "Code Geass" was strategically elaborate and daring, and was very much entertaining in a way other anime weren't. We, as members of the cast, were happy to have been part of its creation.

Fu-kuyama: They kept an iron-fisted control over the information given to us, too. We never knew what was going to happen next, not until we received the script.

Taniguchi: Once the episode directors, the animators and the VAs find out what's going to happen ahead of time, they tend to give their performances working backwards from the end result. There are times when working backwards actually makes it better, but if there is a continuous chain of turning points in the story, there are times when you subconsciously save your strength. I was afraid that would happen.

Fu-kuyama: I didn't want to know what was going to happen next. Finding out beforehand means I'll have to set the bar higher for myself, you see (laugh).

 

--Lelouch was a devil of a role to play, having to face some kind of trial every single time, huh.

 

Fu-kuyama: Lelouch's role is, to put it simply, the chief villain, and Suzaku is the hero. Watching Lelouch use his Geass and prepare the legwork of his strategies with all his heart and soul makes you feel like pitying him.

Taniguchi: Really, I had no idea creating an evil organization of the likes of "Shocker" [*from Kamen Rider] could be so much work (laugh). It's a lot of effort, truly. Here you are, desperately planning some kind of gambit, and "BAM!", the hero appears and everything goes to pieces.

Fu-kuyama: "Code Geass" is a story seen from the side of an evil organization, isn't it? If you were to see the world through a different point of view, a different kind of logic would come into focus. For example, if you were to consider Marianne and Emperor Charles's actions from their point of view, nobody would be able to say they were wrong.

Taniguchi: If you were to rewatch "Code Geass" with the camera on Suzaku's side, Lelouch would be an absolute evil (laugh).

Sakurai: Who's on the side of justice? Who's evil? It all depends on your position and point of view. Telling the story in this manner was very interesting.

Fu-kuyama: I realized that the viewers don't work according to the logic of "justice" and "evil" when choosing which characters to empathize with.

 

 

Fu-kuyama: It has to be episode 9 of "R2" for me. The conversation when Lelouch snatched Tenshi-sama away from Xingke -- in response to "You devil--!!", Lelouch answers "Ho, is that so?". I thought it was a fantastic exchange.

Sakurai: As for me, it's the final episode of "R2". It lingers on in your heart. The characters' resolve came through loud and clear, and it really got to me.

Taniguchi: All the episodes are important to me, so I can't choose one. If I had to say something... at the end of the recording session of the final episode, the staff, on their own initiative, gave out flowers to all of the cast members. I was happy to see that "Code Geass" has its own special place in the hearts of the staff and cast who have been involved [in the project] for so long. Thank you all for the hard work!

All: Thank you for the hard work!!

END

Изменено 15 октября, 2008 пользователем Маримо-кун (смотреть историю редактирования)

[Chemist]

http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/0810/2b/bf28f44eb7c5t.jpg

1.) Asks about the congratulation messages written hanging on Tamaki's wall in his bar. Somebody might have already known about this, but Tamaki's VA, Tanaka Kazunari, wrote his own congratulation message to his character, Tamaki, saying, "To the Handsome Tamaki". LOL

 

2.) About Xingke's noticeable absence in the wedding pic of Ougi and Villetta, still in Tamaki's bar. They offer no explanation, just this, "Why wasn't he at the wedding, despite his precious Tianzi being there? Could it because he had a violent coughing fit?"

 

3.) The the image of Suzaku and Arthur in Kallen's room - Original Picture by Sakurai Takahiro O_o

 

4.) Talks about the message on Suzaku's gravestone, which was "Here lies a consummate and invaluable knight to his highness". Suzaku has supposedly fallen in battle by the defeat of the Lancelot. He was the accomplice of the Atrocious Emperor Lelouch, but someone had his grave made.

Спойлер

Sakurai x Taniguchi x Fu-kuyama Interview, NewType November 2008

 

--Congratulations on the completion of "Code Geass". When did the thought "It's ended" first occur to you, Director Taniguchi?

 

Taniguchi: That's a difficult question. Visually, that would be after the V-edit (Video Editing) ended, because after that you can no longer do anything about it. However, in terms of the end [of Code Geass] as a project, I really don't know.

 

--How did the final recording session go?

 

Taniguchi: It was difficult for me to control myself, psychologically. Since it was the final recording session, I kept thinking "This is the end", but in terms of the actual work, I had to hold on for a little while longer.

Fu-kuyama: I was thinking "Let's record our lines in high spirits!", but that only lasted until episode 24. The final recording session was...... This might be the first out of all my works so far in which I completed the final episode without putting too much effort into it. I took it all calmly.

Sakurai: I was in a spiritual state of nothingness. More than two years have passed between the recording of the first episode and the final episode. To be involved in a project for so long is something of a rarity these days, and because of that I was also overwhelmed with feelings. Still, "Code Geass", true to its nature, ended in a cool way.

Fu-kuyama: I think the VA with the most mixed feelings when it comes to the last episode of Code Geass might very well be Hoshi Souichirou, Gino's VA. To tell you the truth, I received a phone call on the night before the recording for the final episode. I wondered who it was... and it turned out to be Hoshi-san.

Sakurai: He called me, too.

Fu-kuyama: When I answered the call, all he said was "Tomorrow's the final episode, isn't it... do your best*." (laugh) [*ganbattene]

Sakurai: He said "Do your best" to me, too. I guess he was especially attached to this show.

Taniguchi: (laugh) It's up to everyone how they want to interpret the ending, I don't mind, but for me, it was a Happy Ending.

Fu-kuyama: I, too, think it was a happier ending than expected.

Sakurai: As for me... I'm looking at things from the viewpoint of Suzaku's VA, of course, but I've been watching the show as just another audience, too. That might be why the ending was painful for me.

 

--Was the final episode something you thought of from the very beginning?

 

Taniguchi: Yes. The ending was decided upon beforehand. Although it was eventually cut, I actually had [Okouchi] write a script for episode 1, one which began with the scene of Suzaku attempting to kill Lelouch. I'm talking about episode 1 of the previous series, not R2.

 

--The relationship between Lelouch and Suzaku described in these 50 episodes has seen a lot of ups and downs. They've shot at each other with guns, tried to kill each other, stepped on the other's face after he humbled himself by getting on his knees......

Taniguchi: From my point of view, Lelouch and Suzaku's relationship in the previous series did not go beyond that of reunited childhood friends. It wasn't "friendship" -- they were playing at a "make-believe friendship". With R2, my intention was to show how it turned into "friendship" in the truest sense of the word. ......As for the part with the kneeling, if Lelouch hadn't done that, he might have been killed by Suzaku, and Suzaku, had he not stepped on Lelouch's face, would probably not have been able to control his rage.

 

--Basically, it was necessary to go that far* for Lelouch and Suzaku to be able to rebuild their bonds. [*kneeling + stepping on face]

 

Taniguchi: It's a matter of definition, but for me, the relationship between "good friends", to put it bluntly, is one in which "they are able to change each other's soiled underwear even when they've become doddering geezers".*

Fu-kuyama: Though in my opinion, that's already crossed the line into "love" territory (laugh).

 

[*This line sparked an outbreak of "Eeewwww, Taniguchi", "Taniguchi's definition of friendship sets the bar too high" and "...Does Taniguchi actually have such friends?" on 2ch]

 

--Once again: what kind of show was "Code Geass" to all of you?

 

Sakurai: "Code Geass" was a stimulating piece of work, in my opinion. It suddenly appeared and swiftly took society by storm before facing its end in style. I look forward to everyone's reactions after the final episode. I'm sure all of us would like to see more of this type of original anime.

Taniguchi: I would be delighted if the viewers accepted [this show] with that thought in mind. When we first started "Code Geass", there was this sense of danger that if we don't do our best now original anime will die out completely. The way things are, there will eventually only be anime adapted from manga, games and light novels. For the sake of creating an entertaining original anime, we concentrated what skills we had and tried tacking them on little by little during the creation process. Of course, in "R2" we had to continue being aggressive. I continued working on this show feeling like a challenger. It was an enlightening experience!

Sakurai: These days, there are a lot of anime with tactical gimmicks, but "Code Geass" was strategically elaborate and daring, and was very much entertaining in a way other anime weren't. We, as members of the cast, were happy to have been part of its creation.

Fu-kuyama: They kept an iron-fisted control over the information given to us, too. We never knew what was going to happen next, not until we received the script.

Taniguchi: Once the episode directors, the animators and the VAs find out what's going to happen ahead of time, they tend to give their performances working backwards from the end result. There are times when working backwards actually makes it better, but if there is a continuous chain of turning points in the story, there are times when you subconsciously save your strength. I was afraid that would happen.

Fu-kuyama: I didn't want to know what was going to happen next. Finding out beforehand means I'll have to set the bar higher for myself, you see (laugh).

 

--Lelouch was a devil of a role to play, having to face some kind of trial every single time, huh.

 

Fu-kuyama: Lelouch's role is, to put it simply, the chief villain, and Suzaku is the hero. Watching Lelouch use his Geass and prepare the legwork of his strategies with all his heart and soul makes you feel like pitying him.

Taniguchi: Really, I had no idea creating an evil organization of the likes of "Shocker" [*from Kamen Rider] could be so much work (laugh). It's a lot of effort, truly. Here you are, desperately planning some kind of gambit, and "BAM!", the hero appears and everything goes to pieces.

Fu-kuyama: "Code Geass" is a story seen from the side of an evil organization, isn't it? If you were to see the world through a different point of view, a different kind of logic would come into focus. For example, if you were to consider Marianne and Emperor Charles's actions from their point of view, nobody would be able to say they were wrong.

Taniguchi: If you were to rewatch "Code Geass" with the camera on Suzaku's side, Lelouch would be an absolute evil (laugh).

Sakurai: Who's on the side of justice? Who's evil? It all depends on your position and point of view. Telling the story in this manner was very interesting.

Fu-kuyama: I realized that the viewers don't work according to the logic of "justice" and "evil" when choosing which characters to empathize with.

 

 

Fu-kuyama: It has to be episode 9 of "R2" for me. The conversation when Lelouch snatched Tenshi-sama away from Xingke -- in response to "You devil--!!", Lelouch answers "Ho, is that so?". I thought it was a fantastic exchange.

Sakurai: As for me, it's the final episode of "R2". It lingers on in your heart. The characters' resolve came through loud and clear, and it really got to me.

Taniguchi: All the episodes are important to me, so I can't choose one. If I had to say something... at the end of the recording session of the final episode, the staff, on their own initiative, gave out flowers to all of the cast members. I was happy to see that "Code Geass" has its own special place in the hearts of the staff and cast who have been involved [in the project] for so long. Thank you all for the hard work!

All: Thank you for the hard work!!

END

Ну что ж, помимо воды есть одна хорошая новость -- мы видели тот финал, который задумывался изначально.

А самое главное, естественно, не раскрыли. -_-

[Маримо-кун]

еще интервью Окочи, должен появится перевод

 

а так, если вдруг Санрайз соберется(все таки думаю соберется, денег компания захочет ) выпустить ОВА, приквел, сиквел и т.п, то как минимум через пол-года

т.к Танигучи сейчас, продюсер Kurogane no Linebarrels

не ушел он из индустрии аниме -_-

Изменено 15 октября, 2008 пользователем Маримо-кун (смотреть историю редактирования)

[Chemist]

еще интервью Окочи, должен появится перевод

 

а так, если вдруг Санрайз соберется(все таки думаю соберется, денег компания захочет ) выпустить ОВА, приквел, сиквел и т.п, то как минимум через пол-года

т.к Танигучи сейчас, продюсер Kurogane no Linebarrels

не ушел он из индустрии аниме -_-

Как раз Гандам закончится)))

А кто-то сомневался, после "Сузаку и Лелуш работали в последний раз вместе в первом сезоне?"...

 

По поводу Курогане, хоть и оффтоп -- мне одному кажется, или на вротарте Нина нарисована?.. Сюжет в целом навевает ощущение, что Танигучи решил после серьёзной работы и креатива малость отдохнуть на продюссерских харчах на средненьком проекте(хотя вилами по воде, качну и заценю).

1. Ночной сеанс. Никто особого от сериала не ждёт. Как и от первого сезона КГ...

2. Сюжет... ЯОФ в высшей степени. Не есть хорошо.

3. Меха не видел, оценить не могу, но судя по кадрам, там экзоскелеты... хм... реализъм?

4. А вот список сейю... Фукуяма, Наката -- это те, кто в глаза сразу бросился...

5. Танигучи не креативит. Сценарий не он, идея не он -- это экранизация манги...

В общем, желаем Горо-сану хорошего отдыха)

 

Хотя вот поза ГГ на том же арте немного напрягла -- это по поводу того, что Гиасс привнёс в мир аниме...

 

ПС: И по поводу плагиата... откуда есмь пошла Тристанова Коса...

http://world-art.ru/animation/img/1000/687/51.jpg

 

Пойду, что ли тему создам... а то столько инфы нарыли, пропадёт десу...

Изменено 15 октября, 2008 пользователем Chemist (смотреть историю редактирования)

[Маримо-кун]

Фукуяма кстати там главгада озвучивает

 

ГГ после каждого махача и победив адски ржет

[Chemist]

Фукуяма кстати там главгада озвучивает

 

ГГ после каждого махача и победив адски ржет

Это, конечно, оффтоп... но не могу не сравнить... ибо ржал.

1. ГГ -- убицца... 14-ти летнее(а почему вообще не младенец? у них там, мания на это что ли?) чмо против Лелуша... бгг... я бы поставил на подводника, хотя ясно, что он не жилец. Но вот если туда заслать Лелуша... кстати, орэ из уст ГГ слышать было дико.

2. Люди -- мехи, как я понимаю, миру в новинку... но стоять и ждать пока начнут стрелять было очень умно. В Гиассе лди себя ведут адекватно.

3. Меха -- Большие. И быстрые. Но уродские. 3д -- ЗЛО, ибо слишком заметно. Гиасс как-то с этим особо не играл. Заживление повреждений не порадовало крайне.

4. Фансервис... мдя.

5. Поединки -- бред. Мехи с пулемётами идут в рукопашку... порадовало злое мясо -- юзало девайсы по назначению. Смотрится битва крайне невыразительно.

6. ГЗ -- Имп внушал... а подводник... хз. Лелушем первого сезона от него, правда, попахивает... Видимо, Фукуяме понравилось.

7. Конец -- Такой пародии на Лайта я ещё не видел. Чмо, получившее вундервафлю и решившее что может всё. Абсолютная копия. Даже жесты те же. Я уж не говорю про смех -- параллель провелась не с Лелушем(тот как-то всё же злорадно смеётся, а не бешено). Речёвка со сходными заделами... вот только Ягами это вещал так, что пробирало. Или Лелуш, когда под маской развлекался.

 

Команда ГГ тоже доверия не внушает... два школьника на ролях офигевающих лиц. Госконтора с мажорным мужичком с бородкой Хоттабыча и голосом Накаты... мдя...

Капитан плохишей... сейю Комамуры Саджина... в предверии прихода Капитанов в Хуэко-Мундо слышать его голос было приятно.

Что действительно порадовало -- интонации Лелуша от ГЗ... в прочем, на одном подводнике сабж не выедет.

 

Как я и думал -- люди отдыхают. Радует, что это как раз на полгода(24 серии)... как раз под конец Гандама... проект дропаю -- убогая меха, которая будет на первом плане, идиот ГГ... мдя, жаль.

Изменено 15 октября, 2008 пользователем Chemist (смотреть историю редактирования)

[Littm]

Не знаю, упоминали это или нет :

 

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51KW5kcIe0L._SL500_AA240_.jpg

 

Так вот, там будет :

 

"Just some long interviews and a list of everyone who died in Code Geass (perhaps this will finally quell those fervent 'Lelouch is alive' believers), plus a timeline of Lelouch's life, being virgin Lelouch."

 

Хм.

Изменено 16 октября, 2008 пользователем Littm (смотреть историю редактирования)

[Маримо-кун]

говорят в списках есть Лелуш, но в скобках написано умер или же...

[Chemist]

говорят в списках есть Лелуш, но в скобках написано умер или же...

Это всё бред... они издеваться будут как один из преподов нашей кафедры информатики:

 

-- Не подскажете, Л. У. сегодня на кафедре будет?

-- Не подскажу.

-- О_о'''

-- Как спрашиваете -- так и отвечаю.

 

Лелуш умер? Да. Факт 100%. Внимания этому моменту уделено достаточно. Умер. Баста.

Спрашивать надо -- "стал бессмертным" или "выжил"?.. или ещё как-то, однозначно заставляя влезать в постэпиложное время ответом.

Изменено 16 октября, 2008 пользователем Chemist (смотреть историю редактирования)

[Fanateek]

Досмотрел...

Да уж, Восстание Лелуша - как минимум что-то выдающееся и неоднозначное. Впечатлений - через край.

 

Обо всем по порядку (извиняюсь если получится немного сумбурно - меня переполняют эмоции. Прошло два часа всего):

Первое, что хочется отметить - со вторым сезоном испортилось отношение к Сузаку - сразу после его слов о том, что ради карьеры он пойдет на все (а в первом я ничего против не имел). Лелуш - тема отдельная, я его и после первого сезона не любил.

Порадовал Апельсинчик - вел себя хорошо, мужественно. А в первом сезоне не особо приметный перс был (для мнея во всяком случае).

То, что из Нины сделали истеричку - не особо порадовало (хотя такие задатки были и в первом сезоне). Но опять же к концу она подысправилась чуток.

 

О любимых героях:

 

Дружно угадываем о ком речь - ключевые слова - конец 13 серии и вот этот набор смайлов - ;) :) :) :( :( :( :(

После указанной серии я сидел минут 20 (может и больше) неподвижно, глядя на первый кадр следующей серии (в голове эхом слова "я снова влюбляюсь в тебя")... Ну почему наиболее понравившиеся мне герои (еще в первом сезоне Ширли и еще пара персов мне запомнились больше всего) должны умирать? Хотя этот ужасный спойлер я поймал уже давно, от этого легче не стало. Да даже если б и не знал об этом - после того как к ней вернулась память все к этому и шло. Она никогда не была бы счастлива с Лелушем (да и не любил он ее - ну не может такой человек любить по-настоящему), а только наоборот.

Здесь отмечу, что Роллон конечно сразу (ну почти - с тех пор как Лелуш вспомнил о Нанали. А кому он после этого понравился интересно?..) был крайне неприятен, но после такого ни одного цензурного слова я о нем сказать не мог. Когда он погиб жалко не было абсолютно.

Короче после этого момента желание смотреть сильно поубавилось. А после того как все-таки начал смотреть 14-тую серию, оно вообще упало ниже нуля. Думал "Что он несет? Мочи ты этого урода". И лишь мысль о том, что Лелуш скорее всего блефует и потом ему отомстит не позволила мне выключить и удалить это аниме сразу же (а такие порывы очень редко у меня возникают).

 

Карен (Каллен если угодно - мне первый вариант больше нравится. Тут даже саберы одной команды не сошлись в одном мнении)

Еще один персонаж с первого сезона понравившийся. Как и предыдущую девушку, Карен было жаль сразу - она влюбилась в человека, который этой любви не достоин и которому она сама нужна только как пешка в его игре (эта участь в принципе постигла и еще огромное количество народа).

Когда она билась с Сузаку, я естественно болел за нее и думал "только попробуйте ее убить! Yuruse-nai!" Очень рад был когда она победила.

 

Корнелия.

Тоже еще со времени Черного Восстания все время переживал, что она может погибнуть. А предпосылки возникали ой как много раз... Еще один респект Санрайзу.

Вот когда ее подстрелили - об авторах думал "как глупо и бездарно", "зачем?" И конечно мне понравилось, когда ее снова показали и к ней вернулся Гильфорд - красивый момент.

 

Самых любимых наверное все-таки три. А так понравились еще Вилетта и Оги (романтика Гиасса - это по их части тоже), Синкэ и Тянь-цзы (первый очень запоминающийся герой, ну и как он защищает ее понравилось), и само собой Наналли.

После "смерти" последней (глупейшей на тот момент) желания смотреть опять стало куда меньше во много раз. Опять же чуть не бросил (бросил - был бы дураком конечно же).

Просто тут начался сумбур в сюжете, какие-то перемещения по мирам, несколько бессмертных персонажей, плохие стали хорошими (император уже выглядел почти добрым персонажем), хорошие - плохими. Короче, тяжеловато это все для восприятия.

Серии к 21-22-ой где-то ушли вообще в крайность - плохие на тот момент персы стали совсем психами (Лелуш, Сузаку, Шнайзель и т.д.), орден черных рыцарей (вообще эта сторона, кроме главнокомандующего) стали крайне добрыми и максимально героическими. Ну, меха от санрайз - без пафоса никуда. Народ уничтожался десятками миллионов.

Восторга (как с 6 по 19 серию) уже не было.

Но все поменялось с возвращением Наналли (конец 23) - опять от экрана оторваться не мог. Только вот Лелуш совсем озверел к тому моменту и как я предполагал еще в первом сезоне, он уже допускает мысль о жертве жизнью сестры. Симпатии с моей стороны это ему не прибавило а с точностью до наоборот.

Дальше идет многа-боев, кстати они здесь мне понравились (динамичнее и интереснее по сравнению с началом сериала).

 

И опять я на спойлер нарвался конечно ж - ну что Лелуш умрет в конце, хотя я в этом был уверен еще серии с 7 первого сезона. Впечатления это не испортило, скорее наоборот - я ждал когда это случится.

Расстроила сцена со связанными Черными Рыцарями и прикованной Наналли (совсем с катушек слетел наш император).

Появление Зеро-Сузаку встретил чуть ли не с ликованием (ну как в футболе когда наши забивают).

И вот он, момент которого я ждал с начала апреля...Нет! раньше - с 2007 года еще. Здесь показали что вроде как Лелуш все-таки действует из "благих" побуждений и героически принимает собственную смерть (даже сам ее подстраивает). Только опять же жаль мне Карен и Наналли - они теряют любимого человека. Но сам перс как был мне неприятен, так он им и остался. Да не обидятся на меня фанаты императора Лелуша - это лишь ИМХО.

 

В общем, второй сезон понравился намного больше первого. И поразило то, как 5-6 не очень-то удачных серий можно закрыть одной шикарной.

Изменено 16 октября, 2008 пользователем Fanateek (смотреть историю редактирования)

[RevanX]

Да не обидятся на меня фанаты императора Лелуша - это лишь ИМХО.

Фанаты не обидятся!!! Они ведь знают что Лелуш жив :wub:

Олл Хаиль Лелуш!!!